Bishop Eddie Long: Molestation Charges Not the Main Issue

 

Bishop Eddie Long: Molestation Charges Not the Main Issue

—Jeremiah Camara

Bishop Eddie L. Long, spiritual leader of New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in Lithonia, Georgia, has been accused of sexually abusing two young men and possibly more members of his church. Overnight, the Black church has connected itself with the Catholic church, whose priests are often accused of the same crime. Many African Americans, especially members of New Birth, are quick to defend Bishop Long, refusing to believe the allegations but have never been as quick to reserve judgment for the Catholic priests.

The deeper issue at hand has to do with why so many so-called “men of God” are accused of sex crimes. In the Black church, homosexuality is not a new phenomenon—it’s just more in the open nowadays. Gay, Black men are often the most demonstrative in displaying their love for Jesus and are among the most dedicated members of their churches.

Why is the Black church comprised of 70 percent women and a large percentage of homosexual men? Is there something within the church or the tenets of Christianity that is attracting these two demographics of society?

Upon a closer examination of the Black church, it is easy to see why it is appealing to women and gay men. There are usually displays of beautiful floral arrangements near the pulpit, soft music is mainly played in minor keys, the choir is draped in long, flowing gowns, the pastor is typically a well-dressed man which attracts women and homosexuals, and the overall atmosphere exudes a safe, non-threatening, secure environment.

The church’s appeal to women and homosexuals is understood best, however, when considering the trauma that Black people experienced during their American enslavement period. Faith and hope in the prospect of one day obtaining peace were necessary defense mechanisms and Blacks were conditioned to be afraid. There was the constant fear of being beaten, getting caught trying to escape or family members being sold. These experiences, over time, have caused Blacks to develop a spirit of apprehensiveness. We witness this spirit playing out in our inclinations to seek comfort, security, protection and “shelter from the storms of life.” We have been trained to be afraid. These experiences have also created the perfect storm for religiousness which requires submissiveness, subservience and calls for someone else (Jesus) to get behind the wheel of our lives and do the driving.

Black men, heavily involved in the church and possessing a great love for Jesus are subjecting themselves to an effeminizing element of society. Jesus is often presented as a tender, sweet man in a long robe who’s forgiving and all inclusive. Ultimately, the underlying message in the Black church is to “lean on the everlasting arms of Jesus.” As a heterosexual man, it is challenging to commit to the idea of placing oneself in the arms of another man; even if that man is a perceived savior. Sometimes a man must go into the eye of the storm to solve his problems. Encouraging Black men to lay their burdens in the lap of Jesus has offered Black men an escape from the reality of their situations. Seeking comfort, shelter and protection from a mythological figure should be seen as a “turnoff” for strong men with lofty aspirations.

Black preachers, especially, are notorious for starting their sermons in dark, gloomy clouds, underlining the many problems that we all at some point experience. This storm-chasing tactic is used because it provides them with opportunities to rescue their congregations by offering them the shelter and comfort provided by their benevolent Jesus.

In the long run, Christianity is effeminizing the Black man. Preachers who espouse this lean-on-Jesus doctrine are doing a disservice to potentially strong men. The satellites orbiting the earth, oil rigs that run thousands of feet into ocean floors, the cell phone towers that reach the clouds, etc., exist because of brave men who view themselves as gods and are absent of fear and apprehension. Men who measure the thickness of ice in Antarctica, carve roads and highways through mountains or build dams to hold back mighty rivers are not churchgoing, Jesus-loving, shelter-seeking men. This is partly why Black men do not initiate in these fearless and courageous feats.

Loving Jesus and waiting on him to bring rewards is counterintuitive to a heterosexual man and has kept them in a child-like state. Also, Black believers do not love Jesus because he allegedly gave his life so that we may live. If giving one’s life was the measurement of one’s degree of love then we would love Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., more than anyone. Blacks love and accept Jesus as their savior because they have been taught that doing so will bring them favor and rewards. It is an act of selfishness.

Bishop Eddie L. Long is wrong; not just because he may be found guilty of sexual abuse but because he—like so many other mega church preachers—is helping to create a feminine environment for Black men. Not all Jesus-loving men who attend church regularly and love Jesus are homosexuals, but an atmosphere where men continuously seek Jesus’ love and shelter, certainly has the potential to effeminize the strongest of brothers.

Christianity will continue to appeal to women, gay men and the elderly population. Single women seeking a man sometimes find that man in Jesus. Gay men, because of the stigma attached to their lifestyle, find comfort in knowing that Jesus accepts them as they are. The elderly are set in their ways and are usually unwilling to entertain any criticisms of their church, pastor or Christianity. Heterosexual Black men represent the smallest segment of the church’s population—as they should. Maybe we can reduce this number to an even greater extent, and perhaps more Black man will begin to compete on a fearless and greater level in society.

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48 Comments on “Bishop Eddie Long: Molestation Charges Not the Main Issue”

  1. Steven in Greensboro Says:

    Joel 3:3
    And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink.

    2 Corinthians 11:3-4 (Stephen speaking)
    3 – But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

    4 – For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

    Daniel 9:26-27 (Prophecy of Christ)
    26 – And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
    27 – And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

    Isaiah 55:1-2 (Prophecy of Christ)
    1 – Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
    2 – Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

    Isaiah 66:1-3
    1 – Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?
    2 – For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
    3 – He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog’s neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine’s blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

    Acts 7:44-50 (Stephen speaking)
    44 – Our fathers had the tabernacle of witness in the wilderness, as he had appointed, speaking unto Moses, that he should make it according to the fashion that he had seen.
    45 – Which also our fathers that came after brought in with Jesus into the possession of the Gentiles, whom God drave out before the face of our fathers, unto the days of David;
    46 – Who found favour before God, and desired to find a tabernacle for the God of Jacob.
    47 – But Solomon built him an house.
    48 – Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,
    49 – Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
    50 – Hath not my hand made all these things?

    Colossians 2:13-14 (Paul speaking of Christ)
    13 – And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

    14 – Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

    2 Timothy 3:5-7
    5 – Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
    6 – For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
    7 – Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

    2 Peter 2:1-3
    1 – But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
    2 – And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
    3 – And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
    ————————–

    Jeremiah, I’ve read your book ‘Holy Lockdown’. I and my family are in agreement with a great deal of your points. But, more critically, the scriptures agree with a lot of your points.

    The form of the religion we know today as Christianity is what we copied from the same people that enslaved us…. which spun off of the Roman Empire after the Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D. The scriptures I’ve posted show that the true Messiah would cause the monetary system of tithing and offerings (oblations) to cease and no longer need a building/tabernacle to worship God in (also see John 4:24). It’s a beautiful thing that men could adhere to…. rectify the sins of the past and be free to put your money to productive uses for businesses, the one thing our community needs.

    So why didn’t we follow this? The priests had Jesus killed because if people followed him, they wouldn’t need to pay them 10% of all they had.

    Likewise, the ‘preachers’ that have emerged over the last 1800 years have been operating under the same pretense… not recognizing that a man could read the scriptures on his own and allow the law to be the schoolmaster that brings him to Christ (Galatians 3:24-25) without needing a mortal man to teach him. This is how my father found God and Jesus, after being blind. He taught the law to me. I went through my own self-inflicted trials, but I eventually came back to the standard and faith that was instilled from father to son.

    Jawanza Kunjufu wrote in a book in 1994 that we had over $50 BILLION in churches. How many millions in factories do we own? We don’t. As you’ve stated before…. we don’t have economic power in our community because we put our money into that which is not bread (Isaiah 55:1-2)….. the so-called church system.

    I hope you see this post and I look forward to hearing from you.

    • Cheriamor Houston Says:

      One of the best unbiased views – showing pros and cons and not simply bashing the whole of any individual or group of people. Thank you!

  2. Kushite Says:

    All each individual has to do to find his/her right path, is to go within self. Simply sit in a comfortable chair, with the back erect and quiet the mind, and soon you shall hear the God of Your Realization begin to speak.

    We all know intuitively what is right and wrong, and what we must do to be productive, responsible people. Find a secluded spot in your home, and consecrate it, by your thoughts and actions, to your own spiritual growth and development. It is all in our genetic memory banks, so keep your money in your pockets, and don’t go looking outside of yourself, for what’s inside of yourself.

    Therefore, there is no need for priest, rabbi, pastor, guru, or way-shower. We are the Captains of our ships, the Masters of our FATE. Religion is a cop out for weaklings, who don’t want to take responsibility for themselves, so they put it on others.

    That white “Fagotized Jesus” that Africans have been given, is not real, he never existed. In the case of African people, this Eponymous Character, is all part of the Making of The Negro, or the NIGGERIZATION Process. This was obviously done to make us feel inferior and to become obedient, dumb-downed buffoons. Jesus is real, he was born in Abyssinia [Ethiopia], in a cave. Just as how they [Caucasoids]stole ROCK AND ROLL, they keep borrowing from the ORIGINAL PEOPLE [Alkebulanians]and crediting to themselves, what they have stolen.

    Do Ma’at and live.

    Asé!!

  3. Alfred Smith Says:

    I think that the church attracts women and homosexual males because of its emotional nature and its teaching that Jesus accepts all. This is especially true for charasmatic churches. Heterosexual males are not interested in the super emotional atmosphere that is presented at church.

    If you think about it, church is a lot like a Tyler Perry movie which also attracts lots of black females and homosexual men. Its full of drama (emotional roller coasters), crying, laughing, passion, love, shame and guilt, and then redemption. These things really turn women on and its the same reason they love men that are players. Women will go through great lengths to maintain a relationship that gives them emotional highs and lows. So the church is no different.

    I agree that people go to church and serve the church for selfish reasons. This is because they want to go to heaven and they want favors on earth. I see that most women serve the church for financial gain, a place to vent their emotions, and they want “Jesus” to hold their relationships together. The ironic thing about the church and black women is that a black woman really abhors the characteristics that are typically associated with Jesus in a black male. They do not like to date gentle, affectionate, and non aggressive men. Also they dont want men who will wait for sex.


  4. You can hear the hate in the tones of the writer and the commentators of this article. Many people resort to this type of behavior when they hate Christianity, hate Christians, and are confused about God and religion (because there are so many to choose from). So, you are actually using this (and maybe a few or many other) situations to boast and claim this same issue against ALL Christians, ALL pastors, and even Jesus Himself. (This is in response to the author and the majority of those who commented).

    You can hear the hatred. Comments, even if they are your true views, are partly biased, based upon your hatred of Christianity. This was just another opportune time to voice your negative views. I mean, are you serious? All churches are gay?? Really?

    I agree with some things stated, but as I’ve seen before, some people only talk about the Christian Church when they want to highlight something negative. Here’s a thought: some of the things you find wrong with the church are simply things wrong you’d find with any person, family, institution, business, organization, religious group, etc. – in general. But, excuse me as I say this, “people like you” only want to slap these negative perceptions upon the heads of many, all, and only Christians, and especially their leaders. You all hate so much that you’ve actually convinced yourself to think nothing but negativity of all Christians and even Christianity itself. Ever thought, “maybe it’s not Christianity, but individuals who CALL themselves Christians?”

    • OLDSKOOL Says:

      Thanx! I Needed the comedy relief. It’s also good to have opposing views on sites like this, as you are clearly in the minority here, and it took guts to post, even though it is likely to be ridiculed by most of us! BTW, most of us probably have members of our families who claim to be Christians, I doubt we hate them.

  5. Phil Says:

    This is greatness. I can agree with the damn near everthing you presented. I dont see the point in some others opposing observation with opinion. My 2 cents though: It seems there is this aura of a time lapse in the minds of religious people or people who figure themselves men and women of Capital G God (or All Uppercase “GOD”). I say time lapse because the present is no longer what the past was. Change is forever as constant as physical death is and the fact that people seem to want to live in the NOW as beings or participants of these past lifestyles; which contained their own set of paradigms that mattered then and not so much now, is beyond psychotic, in my opinion. Psychotic because not realizing that the church of the past has now morphed into what we call MEGA which is a powerful concept label to give some “thing”. Which means if you run/own/pastor/minister over a MEGA-church or aspire to be one,(what church would not) you and I assume your party of member who help you, have absolute power over the minds of the people in the church. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Corrupt is what has happened to the church. Another word for corrupt is poisoned and the best way to deal with poison is an antidote which is generally another poison that neutralizes the 1st poison. I grew up in atleast 5 different church institutes and NONE preached the future of the people, none spoke of the empowerment of self for self. None taught to accept all people as is as the bible speaks of. Malfunction to maintain income and participation, Fear of the one you love, hate for those unworthy of “HIS” grace, Death of independence and self expression. For anyone who proudly defends the religious tyranny that is Christianity, go google Stockholm’s Syndrome. Beat down so long or bad you actually believe the one abusing you and their abuse IS LOVE.

  6. Joao Says:

    This is the beginning of a new realization… That all belief systems are size-of-the-tribe manifestos. The pressure to grow and be recognized is eternal. Power over the powerless ( expressions of unattainable hope through faith) continues to attract those in need, for no good reason.

  7. Wanda Says:

    I’ve enjoyed this blog. However I’ve enjoyed the comments just as well.

    I will conclude with this: A closed mind is like a closed book. Eventually the ‘dust’ will over-run it, bringing it to ruin. To live a lifetime never asking questions and seeking the answers is truly the greatest abuse one can do with the wonderful gift GOD (Creator) has given us~ Our Minds!

  8. OLDSKOOL Says:

    The real issue here is the reaction by the majority of his congregation. The sheepified masses reject the obvious, he didnt exactly deny the alleagations. They mostly want to paint the victims as money hungry, yet dont see the Bishop as such, despite his affluent lifestyle. The visceral hypocrisy is what angers me the most. I could care less about his sexuality, but when you rant and rave about the ills of homosexuality, then practice what you preach against, it is just sickening. Him, and his flock deserve each other.

  9. Shabaka Neferkare Says:

    What then shall we men say to our ancestors when we meet them face to face. What will the childern have as legecy from our short time here on earth. We die a little more each day, remaining lost and blind to the fact that we are more than we can even imagine. What will they say of us in future time “they too were lost in their own ability, not knowing, even themselves”

  10. Lee Brown Says:

    Oh by the way Br. Jeremiah. I assume you enjoy sports? Troy Polamalu is a devout Greek Orthodox Christian. Did you see him jump over the offensive line and sack that QB last week? Notice that Polamalu makes the sigh of the cross after before and after every play!! Is Troy feminine? Was Reggie White feminine. Is Tony Dungee, first black man to win a Super Bowl feminine??
    Also, is the African continent feminine? 400 million Christains!! Homosexuals are killed!! If your opinions do not hold up in the Motherland (Africa), then what does that say about the way you think? Are you AFRIKAN?
    When Africa says Jesus is a myth, then you may have some credibility. I suggest traveling to Nigeria and saying Jesus is a MYTH! 🙂 Even the 400,000 Muslims believe that Jesus walked the earth!! Are you Afrikan?

  11. Weathers Says:

    What are you basing this off of? Are these your personal opinions and/or experiences? A lot of what you say applies to the majority of black churches, but not all.

  12. Alice M. Arnold Says:

    Just have to bring to the attention of others the fact that my parents were the representation of GOD to me they are my creator nobody else could gays can’t do that in their cohabitation a sexual preference for whatever reason should still be private the religious teachings given by anyone who is correct about it should be allowed to do so. We should not do as man does unless it is correct the decendants of royalty were usually given the truth and leadership over people less fortunate. The people very often need the proper direction because they tend to lean towards evil so often.

  13. Ausar Aset Heru Hotep Says:

    First and foremost I want to say that I truly appreciate this article. I am a heterosexual black man and I live in Atlanta. I am a Georgia native. I was born and raised here and have seen the rapid emergence of a gay/lesbian population over the last 15 years. The fact that Eddie Long or Eddie Thong as we call him in the circles I run in is gay has been known for years. I personally had an altercation with his son, which almost ended in violence. This was due to the fact his son who too is gay made a pass at me. The only thing that diffused this particular situation was the fact that my parents were present. Just like his father Long’s son is a married man living a façade. I also had a close personal friend that has worked security for Long on numerous occasions. He has expressed things to me that I don’t care to repeat. I’ve also had a girlfriend break up with me because I wouldn’t attend his church with her. So I fully understand the magnitude of this situation. I think that you are 100% accurate in your assessment of the demographic perspective in the black church. This will continue on without change until the black man and the black woman begin to overstand what happened to us. I don’t like to use the term history because that is his story. I prefer to say what happened, if we just took time to logically and objectively analyze that. We could begin the healing process as a race and we could be united in our ascension back to glory. Those that choose to prescribe to Christianity, Islam, or Judaism are continuing the slave masters plan for us. Furthermore if the proper research was done by our people this wicked, unholy, and evil paradigm would fall. The fact some people in our community will always choose ignorance over enlightenment will continue this process and keep them in psychological bondage. The great Lauryn Hill said in a song “if you looking for the answers then you gotta ask the questions” I wholeheartedly believe that we can break the chains.
    Hotep

    • CathyakaKitty Says:

      I want to comment on your alleged encounter with the “so-called” Bishop Eddie Long’s son, if this encounter did actually take place and this man is married and leading a DL lifestyle – I wholeheartedly say the women in this situation are the key to ending this deceptive lifestylea (i.e. the Mrs. Longs). For the life of me – I don’t understand how so many woman can be married to DL men and not know it. I believe most do know it or, at least, suspect it but because they would rather live the lie and enjoy the material perks that come with being married to these men – and, hell, many of them stay in these fake marriages just to say, “I’ve got a husband!” Marriage is becoming equivalent to winning a Best Actress Oscar for most black women regardless if the man comes down the aisle with a long wig, wearing eyeshadow and 6inch stilettoes! That is why gay men are so readily accepted in the black church because there are so many desperate women who so desperately seek the attention of a men – they’ll take it any way they can get it. We are definitely in deep do do – no pun intended or meant to insult gay men. This is not a new phenomenon – if this man’s own son is gay – whose to say he isn’t a victim of molestation by his own father? It’s time for all of these bible-totting idiots to wake the hell up and start fighting for their children – instead of for a place of recognition and acceptance in the New Butts congregation!!!


  14. Brother, thank you for this hard hitting information! Men must weather storms to foster righteous, balanced manhood!

  15. Joshua Brown Says:

    this writer is wayyy out of line!! he’s right on some things but wrong on many!!

    a few things:
    1. lets c this is a lie, that is y I luv Jesus!

    “Also, Black believers do not love Jesus because he allegedly gave his life so that we may live”.

    2. how about, nooo. I believe c its the truth!

    “Blacks love and accept Jesus as their savior because they have been taught that doing so will bring them favor and rewards. It is an act of selfishness”.

    3. yea, wut ever!! my church is a Holy Ghost environment!!

    like so many other mega church preachers—is helping to create a feminine environment for Black men.

    4. first off, Jesus is not mythological, and Christ is a defnte turn on for me– Spiritually!!

    “Seeking comfort, shelter and protection from a mythological figure should be seen as a “turnoff” for strong men with lofty aspirations”.

    • Ausar Aset Heru Hotep Says:

      @Joshua I don’t even know where to begin on this it’s obvious that you have a very limited and narrow vantage point so I’ll just ask you some questions so that I don’t offend you

      Do you know how far back the bible dates? Once you find out how far back the bible dates the answer this. Do you know where the story of Jesus came from? Do you know how many crucified messiahs there were that predated Jesus? What was jesus’s real name. if the god that the bible speaks of is omnipotent and omnipresent would he make a mistake by having to rewrite the law which became the new testament? Why were there books of the bible that were left out of the new testament? I sure hope you monkey ass niggas stop believing in a farytale and wake up from this spell you are under!!!!! It’s time for the African to wake up and return our rightful place!!!! Hotep

  16. E-Z Says:

    religion is plain and simply a concept of living life according to GOD (Allah, Buddha, and so on) the difference in names people put on their higher power only show the power of people’s belief. as a strong black man, i myself cannot b swayed into activity that is not becoming of the morale and principles i hold. i do not agree that “church” is feminine. i can believe dat because of church’s serene environment, social misfits can feel comfortable in these environments. regardless of ur religion, ur higher power is a forgivin, compassionate, lovin _______(whaeva name u call HIM)
    As for mr. long, if he did do those things allegated, it is a shame that these are the people our children look up to. if he did not (which i am truly hopin) i hope he continues to try and uplift our people!!!’


  17. There has never been much of a difference between preachers and pimps, with many preachers morphing into pimps and pimps finding saving souls more respectable, “saved”sistas bring him the money just like the street ho. Since most churches …are composed of women,(kids, old folks, maybe gays) giving hard earned money to peacock dressed man, the difference between the pimp and preacher is blurred.
    Anyways, I can’t rock in the bosom of a man, not my thing! My God is the most beautiful women imaginable, untouchable by preachers or pimps because she is in the safety of my mind and thoughts. That’s right, she’s Fine Fine, Fine!


  18. This is quiet an interesting subject and touches on many different views which shows that we are all individuals. GOD loves us all regardless of who we are. Please do not forget that the LOVE of GOD is the main reason that we all should be going to church and worshiping HIM. HIS love for us is greater than any man could ever portray I don’t care what he has on. It should not matter if he is dressed in the finest garb or has tatter rags on , as long as he is preaching the TRUE WORD of GOD it shouldn”t matter.

  19. Rivka Says:

    This man is no man of The Most High.
    Just because one says that does not mean it’s true.
    Prosperity Gospel is a lie. “God” does not “want you to be rich”.
    NOWHERE IN SCRIPTURE DO YOU SEE THAT.
    The Messiah was from a meager Hebrew family that made meager money. HE says it will be easier for a camel to pass thru the eye of a needle than it will be for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of The Most High.
    IF we are looking for otherworldly come-ups — do you REALLY want to be rich when you look at it like that?

    That being said — this man is evil he is just another heralder of the counterfeit version of the truth — Christianity.

    Why should anyone expect any different from a worshipper of an idol god?
    Paganism’s ALL about foolish women coming out from under the order of their husbands and giving their all to this pimp.
    Paganism’s ALL about homosexual relationships.

    Scripture fully details how one will receive blessings from The Most High; it is NOT from giving your money to this man-made nonsense. There are a series of laws/rules and he does NOT teach them.

    PLUS one must ask one’s self: if scripture clearly states NARROW IS THE WAY AND FEW ARE THOSE THAT FIND IT — and Christianity is the largest path there is in the enire world these days — perhaps that way is NOT Christianity?

    It certainly LOOKS like the right one. It’s got the right book. It talks about a god. It mentions the Messiah.

    NOT!

    But it will all be played out. I can talk til the cows come home. I dont HAVE to because all will be revealed and people will see that the wrong choice has been made.
    Because no matter what I say here or anywhere else — no one who is not meant to receive it will receive it.

    In conclusion: No surprises in this debacle. Just MORE understanding.


    • There has never been much of a difference between preachers and pimps, with many preachers morphing into pimps and pimps finding saving souls more respectable, “saved”sistas bring him the money just like the street ho. Since most churches …are composed of women,(kids, old folks, maybe gays) giving hard earned money to peacock dressed man, the difference between the pimp and preacher is blurred.
      Anyways, I can’t rock in the bosom of a man, not my thing! My God is the most beautiful women imaginable, untouchable by preachers or pimps because she is in the safety of my mind and thoughts. That’s right, she’s Fine Fine, Fine!

  20. Montu Says:

    I agree with you 100%. Our race appears to be in its final throes. I am amazed at all the brothers I grew up with who were once hard-rocks, now conversing like bitches on facebook or every time we run into each other. It’s always the same weak talk about some faggoted savior concept called Jesus or some excessively restrictive personality as Muhammed, or just plain defeated or unsubstantiated hope in Pan-Africanism or metaphysics. It’s all bullshit.

    Every black man knows deep down that the threats we face are real and from the same source as the threats have always originated. Homosexuality, religious extremism, and even thugism are just arguments for exclusion from our continuing dilemma of being black in America.

    There is but one solution; it is the same response as to which all living things must exhibit, when their very lives, livelihood, and posterity are threatened. The action necessary has always been the same as has the problem. For centuries, we have tried the flight mechanism, physically, mentally, and spiritually–none have worked; what is left to do is obvious. There must first be an internal “audit of accounts” to eliminate potential stumbling blocks set before the gate.

    We must address, as you have in the above article, root issues, in order to move forward. We have to take a good look at ourselves and not the occasional pluses, that we laud as progress. We often forget that every positive is composed of two minuses.

    • Doreen Says:

      How dare you use the f word when speaking of homosexuality. Your bigoted remark shows how prejudiced you are when it comes to the subject.

  21. L.A. Walker Says:

    I really appreciate your view point. We are so afraid to have an open and honest dialogue regarding the Church, Bible and our roles.

    Your asssessment is spot on. Now here comes the tricky part: these brothers cannot be openly gGay without severe reprisal and the sisters in the Church are chasing these Gay men down. My sisters are sure they can convert them, that is if they dare admit the brother is a man lover. Most cannot accept this until they become broke or broken.

    So let me see: Men can’t be men, Gay men can’t be Gay, women can’t find husbands and the children are turning to cable for answers to these puzzles before them.

    We need to redefine Church.

  22. D in ATL Says:

    Jeremiah,
    Although I appreciate your attempt at expressing why strong black men distance themselves from the church, your arguments are in several instances fallacious.

    For the sake of brevity I will not debate every arguement presented, however I must dismiss several points that you present as facts. First, you equate charisma “pastor is typically a well-dressed man which attracts women and homosexuals,” with only attracting females and homosexuals. Using your argument President Obama or any other politician or public figure whose attire includes suits and ties appeal primarily to a narrow group. Would not any person expect a speaker to present themselves properly regardless of what group was in front of that speaker?

    Second, the Western idea of Jesus forced upon people that they wished to control of a “a tender, sweet man in a long robe who’s forgiving and all inclusive” does not exist in the Bible. Read the Bible and you will see a man who was anything but a punk. He stood up to people who wanted him dead, he could be angered, and he never promoted an all inclusive doctrine. He did this knowing his mission was to die an exceptionally horrific death (martyrs have no forewarning of such abrupt endings). Heaven is accessible to those who follow God’s rules and laws.

    Third, you list fear as the platform used to control persons (particularly African Americans)and under the thumb of a benevolent Jesus and a willing Black church. You further say that this leaning on Jesus limits the productivity and creativity of Black straight men. That is just not true. Please examine the volumes of work produced by men of drive and ingenuity who dedicated their talents to God. I would argue that many of these straight men succeeded because of their faith in God rather than in spite of it. Any disproportionate representation of men in the arts and sciences in America have more to do with numbers and lack of opportunity than a church which “effeminizes” the black man.

    Finally, if you have been exposed to or are attending a church that is led by a man who effeminizes men and presents God and Jesus as something other than what you read for yourself, then you need to find another church. Please do not make the mistake of identifying the Black church as one homogenous population. Maybe your church or the churches you have attended have effeminized men, but not all. The men in the Bible changed the world by acting in opposition to fear and exhibiting faith. Jesus is God’s extension of that love and connection to Him so that we may continue to act in our faith in spite of our fear(s).

  23. Lee Brown Says:

    And Br. Jeremiah, if Christianity is effiminate, what of the Holy Crusades? What of all the wars fought by men with faith? Civil War war battle cry, “Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord! Many Christian soldiers have fought and died in wars! As a veteran I know first hand that ALL SOLDIERS ARE IDENTIFIED BY THEIR FAITH on the dog tags!! “What is your faith” is the first question asked at enlistment!! Unless you have attended every Black Christian church in America, stop telling lies! Some Black American men are absent becasue they have NO DESIRE to be holy!! Spiritually dead, and this is unique to the US since the African continent is comprised of 400 million Christians and 400 million Muslims! Perhaps look at the porno industry as a reason why ‘most?’ African American men do not attend a house of worship!!!

  24. Khalil Amani Says:

    From “Hip-Hop Homophobes…”

    This is the prevalent thinking among religious folks. And they all use the Bible to justify their stance on homosexuality, but you’re just about to get the raw truth on how they came to believe the negative trash on homosexuality. You are about to find out what none of them have ever taught! I’m about to expose you to the 3,000 year old polemic (argument) that has been sheepishly challenged—a goddamned religious lie that has been perpetrated as THE TRUTH—dressed up in a holy robe, forged with God’s signature! Oh these fucking preachers! They say homosexuals can change their lifestyle and become straight, yet they can’t seem to stop getting their dicks sucked by prostitutes on a sunny Sunday afternoon (“I have sinned” Jimmy Swaggart). They claim to speak for God, but they’ve got their dirty hands in the cookie jar, stealing money (Rev. Jim Bakker). They condemn fags to hell, yet buy $900,000 houses for their Christian whore mistress, while pocketing another $8,250,000 (that’s eight million plus) to maintain their immoral lifestyle (Rev. Henry Lyons). They rage against homosexuality, but secretly got a “downlow” fetish for male masseurs and crystal methamphetamines (Ted Haggard). They claim to have the anointing of God on them, while they’re giving their wife the “hard-bottom special,” (stomping her on the ground) treating her like a whore that held back her pimp’s money (Bishop Thomas Weeks III)! They boast about their blessings from God—their Rolls Royces, mansions, and jewelry, while their parishioners give all that they can in hopes of receiving similar blessings (Rev. Ike, Bishop E. Bernard Jordan, Rev. Fred K.C. Price, Rev. Creflo Dollar, Rev. T.D. Jakes, etc.). They are all multimillionaires! W.W.J.D.? He damned sure wouldn’t flaunt his wealth to his followers!

  25. Khalil Amani Says:

    From “Hip-Hop Homophobes…”

    These jackleg preachers—these hallelujah hucksters—these pulpit pranksters are the most homophobic in our society—using God as a weapon, they rant about the evils of homosexuality. They all parrot the same lie about homosexuality. Listen to them! “I’m against homosexual marriage and I’m against the homosexual lifestyle because the average life expectancy of a homosexual and lesbian in the United States is 42 and 45, versus 75 and 79. These people are fighting for a lifestyle that is robbing them of half of their life expectancy,” says pastor Rod Parsley. “I don’t think its God’s best… I never feel like homosexuality is God’s best,” a sheepish pastor Joel Osteen says. “All homosexuals will be burned alive!” Benny Hinn roars. “You cannot say I was born this way! I don’t care what scientists say! Homosexuality and lesbianism are spiritual abortions,” so says a more scientifically enlightened bishop Eddie Long. “Homosexuality is Satan’s diabolical attack upon the family. AIDS is not just God’s punishment for homosexuality; it is God’s punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuality,” rants a confused Jerry Falwell. “Hollywood Jews are promoting lesbianism, homosexuality and other filth,” says a self-righteous Minister Louis Farrakhan.

  26. Scotty Says:

    As a hetrosexual man brought up in the church but no longer attends for a variety of reasons, I found this piece to be spot on, at least for me. I think the sister doesn’t understand how Black heterosexual men thing or feel, I can love a brother without all the hugging and touching even if it isn’t in a sexual manner, I handshake and a pat of the back will do for this brother. hugs are only do in the most emotionally extreme cases like the death of a loved one or greeting a brother I have not seen in a really, really, really long time and we are close like real brothers, not fake brothers. I also understand what you mean about the Catholic Priests, many of us in the Black community dog them out without waiting to hear all the facts. I can still here my mother say and other elders, “Don’t talk about the man of God”. Perhaps if more members were talking then alot of this stuff would be stopped before it starts and I’m talking about more than this alleged abuse, I’m talking about the building fund that has been existence for 10 years and not one brick lain and so on. Yes, they are counting on you not talking to each other about the “man of God”.

  27. Khalil Amani Says:

    From “Hip-Hop Homophobes…”

    A man ain’t nothin’ but a Homo! The homocentric idea is everywhere present. This is also true of our various religious beliefs. It doesn’t matter if you’re Jewish, Christian or Muslim. Your religion is homocentric. The representations and symbols of your religion are homocentric. The love you express towards your god is homocentric. Even your god is homocentric! All of your religious heroes/prophets are male-Homo-centric. From your male gods Yahweh, Jehovah, and Allah to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David, Solomon, Jesus, Muhammad, and Buddha, we worship from a male-Homo-view of the Deity. James Brown used to sing a song, “This is a man’s, man’s man’s world.” He was right. Your very salvation is in the hands of a male god!

    This male-god that we worship creates all and condemns those who sin. And we males, homosexual and heterosexual, desire the love of this male god. There are even illusions in the Book of Ezekiel to God having a sexual relationship with Israel (16:8). Israel and Judah are spoken of as an adulterous wife and God as the jealous husband. In the New Testament, the male Christian desires the love of another man. The son—Jesus. Our male-love for the male-son is idealistic of the homocentric idea. The father is male. The son is male. And this male god has given human-males charge over females and all other creatures. This is the order of our paternalistic-sexist-homocentric religion.

    The preacher’s upright, elongated, rectangular pulpit is a symbol of the homocentric paradigm. It is a phallic symbol… a male penis. So is the cross—another phallic symbol. The phallic symbol or male penis is to be worshipped.

  28. Lee Brown Says:

    AND Br. Jeremiah, Africa is NOT a feminine environment by any stretch. 400 million African Christians!!! Also, what data do you have to support GREAT MEN who build, explore, and aspire great accomplishments are not religious? I counter that the queens and kings of our planet generally espoused to some God, Allah,G-d, or gods!!! Blantant lies like these do not ‘bamboozle’ all African Americans.

    • robin Says:

      Ok brother our Kings and Queens were/are by nature spiritual beings. Not allowing themselves to succumb to the so-called religious ways of the modern world. With proper research you find the truth behind catholic saints and how slaves of haiti, altered their true spiritual beliefs to fit the masters religion.

  29. Lee Brown Says:

    Sorry, but your credibility has been lost due to the FACT that there are over 400 million African Christians. 200 million of them are Catholic. The numbers are growing everyday. Also, your dishonest statement that MOST priets are perverts shows you have an agenda to discredit Catholicism.

    With 1 billion Catholics, the percentage of those molested is miniscule. No more than molestation in the Protestant faiths, or the US military.

  30. Bro. Delano Says:

    Bro. Jeremiah, Thank you for expressing your opinion on the Black church. I on the other hand have a few comments on your article. (1). The Black church has not connected itself to the Catholic church. The Catholic church has demonstrated a consistent policy of a conspiratorial cover-up of thier pedophillic priests. The Black church has done no such thing.
    (2). The right knowledge of Christianity would not effeminize the Black man, but make him a better one given the right and true view of Jesus, who was a Black man of warrior status !!! He beat the hell out of the crooks selling merchandise in the temple. He was the man who stood against the political system of his day. He would call you a hypocrite to your face. His deciples would chop your ear off without blinking an eye. He took a beating that few if any could endure even in this day and age. An example of a true man !!! At his reurn men will drop dead at the sight of him !!! (3). The Black man was the first to initiate fearless and courageous acts. Like being the first at the north pole. Hannibal crossing the Swiss Alps to invade and conquer Italy. Africans were the first to circum-navigate the globe. Hatian men were the first to rebel and sucessfully kick the French out of their country and keep them out. These were all God fearing Black men. (4). No where in the Bible or anywhere for that matter does Jesus accept homosexuals as they are. As a matter of fact, the bible states that a homosexual is an abomination to the Lord. Sodom and Gomorrah was rained on with hell fire because of this sin. In Rev. 21, it states that: the fearful, and unbelieving and the aboninable(homosexual) and murderer, and whoremongers, and sorcerers and idolators and all liars, SHALL HAVE THEIR PART IN THE LAKE WHICH BURNETH WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE, which is the second death !!! That Don’t Sound Like ACCEPTANCE TO ME. So cut to the chase and give the real reason for the PROMOTION of homosexuality to the Black community. It is a form of population reduction/control. Just like abortion, vaccines and drug abuse. Let’s call a spade a spade !!!

  31. Imani Says:

    Hmmm…is the author really asserting that the languid music, flowing robes and floral arrangements are drawing my same gender brothers into the church?! Come on. I’d like to think that our brothers are a bit more complex than that. Also…, perhaps women and gay men are drawn to the church because it’s (supposed to be) a place of acceptance and unconditional love. I’m not crying victim here, but it seems to me that apart from children, woman/lgbt communities are the ones who are threatened most by nearly all societies on this planet.

    Also, and my black studies folks please correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t Fredrick Douglass assert that the reason that enslaved Africans rejoiced on the high holy Christian day was to celebrate their only day off? Wasn’t this day that enslavers encouraged and supplied liquor too – just to keep them in a state of intoxication, too inebriated to plan an escape or to cultivate anger? So the intoxication (and comfort) was used to sell our ancestors on the promise of the church to provide at least one day of peace and frivolity, right? Looks that way to me. Plus, what better tool than to justify our enslavement than the Bible – the curse of Ham, anyone? Phew! Ok, ok…breathing deeply again…I just think that the appeal of the church was more about catching a break instead of catching the Spirit.

    And this, “As a heterosexual man, it is challenging to commit to the idea of placing oneself in the arms of another man; even if that man is a perceived savior.” That’s too bad. I wonder if the author ever went to the Million Man March. Embracing your brother, father, son, friend (and I would hope, one’s savior too), would be a pure experience – not a thing to do with sex – but love. It was our brother Marlon Riggs who said, “Black men loving black men is the revolutionary act.” Heterosexual or homosexual, love does not have a gender.

    I could write an entire essay about this quote, “In the long run, Christianity is effeminizing the Black man. Preachers who espouse this lean-on-Jesus doctrine are doing a disservice to potentially strong men. The satellites orbiting the earth, oil rigs that run thousands of feet into ocean floors, the cell phone towers that reach the clouds, etc., exist because of brave men who view themselves as gods and are absent of fear and apprehension. Men who measure the thickness of ice in Antarctica, carve roads and highways through mountains or build dams to hold back mighty rivers are not churchgoing, Jesus-loving, shelter-seeking men. This is partly why Black men do not initiate in these fearless and courageous feats.”

    Soooo, since he’s saying that Black men do not have the courage or vision to erect a cell phone tower?! Or engage in space travel? Astronomy is off limit to our brothers?! What about our sisters? Does this guy read?! Does he know about Mae Jamison? Neil deGrasse Tyson? So only white men have the courage to do the big jobs? I mean, unless he’s talking about our Latino brothers…but I doubt it.

    This article is filled with assumptions, generalizations, and internalized self hatred. But I will agree with the title of his article, “Bishop Eddie Long: Molestation Charges Not the Main Issue”


  32. Ma’at Hotep Bro. Jeremiah, this is a very good analysis of Christianity. I like the way that you didn’t really deal with the issue of Bishop Eddie Long because we need to get all of the facts but however it doesn’t look good for him nor would it surprise me if it were true.

    See in you Detroit for the Convocation this weekend.

    Peace.


  33. Mr. Camara:

    Thank you for your candidness and brilliant analogies herein. As a free spirit person in this physical world, I find most religions often involve these three areas: control, power, and money. i.e, this church. I particularly love this statement you wrote “Loving Jesus and waiting on him to bring rewards is counterintuitive to a heterosexual man and has kept them in a child-like state. Also, Black believers do not love Jesus because he allegedly gave his life so that we may live. If giving one’s life was the measurement of one’s degree of love then we would love Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., more than anyone.” Namaste!.
    Sara

  34. Khalil Amani Says:

    very insightful. I wrote something along these lines a few years ago about Christianity and its feminization of men.

  35. jane Says:

    WOW that was so well said thank you brother for shining the light so brightly on this subject. Good job Black man.

  36. Beyond Life Says:

    Wow, Maybe if all these christians overstood how one gets power in the religion of the Beast, they would not be so surprised. 1) This man is doing nothing different then King James and his crew of sissies did. http://www.amazon.com/King-James-Letters-Homoerotic-Desire/dp/0877456690/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1285188906&sr=8-1-fkmr1#reader_0877456690

    Eddie Long is seeking the higher power, funny why did he take these boys to New Zealand? There is a power grid there and many politicians, and big wigs go there to perform rituals of power there. Sex with male and with virgin girls is apart of many power rituals. King James did this and beheaded many of the males when he was finished yet, many of you think it is ok to be a christian or use that King James Bible to save your soul. You believe that this is the words of God but, you do not know the history of these men and that book. Bishop Eddie just got caught, the rest of the Boulle` haven’t. Once they are exposed, you all will have your mouths on the floor. Black people return to your Spiritual life and live as the GoDs and GoDDess that you are. History will show you that all religions are lies based off of the etchings that you left here for this time known as NOW. You are the direct descendants of the ORIGINAL GOD being the ORIGINAL people. Dark matter is in your melanin. Wake up and research your history, start in KEMET.
    HOTEP

  37. Eric Clemons Says:

    Bro. Camara,
    I hadn’t quite thought of it this way, but you make a very interesting and valid point. I always wondered the reasons behind most black churches being filled with women, and older men. I have known some more feminine males who were very devoted to their churches, and since homosexuality has been generally frowned upon by the church, I wondered what led to their devotion. Now I have another idea. Thank you brother.

    • Emilio Bermiss Says:

      I hope bro JerimiaH IS NOT RIGHT. I FIND HOLES IN HIS ARGUMENTS. MANY OF THE AFRICANS WHO CREATED MATHEMATICS, ENGINEERING, ETC. WERE NON CHRISTIANS, BUT MANY WERE MUSLIM.OR PRACICED NATURAL SPIRITUALITY OR EVEN SANTERIA OUR PROBLEM IS BIGGER THAN THE CHURCH, IT IS MORE LIKE CULTURE, YEARS OF INDOCTRINATION AND AS FRANZ FANON SAID, THE OPPRESSORS SUCCESS IN PREVENTING US TO EVEN DREAM OF FREEDOM.

      I CHALLENGE BRO JEREMIAH TO PRESENT WHAT WE SHOULD BELIEVE IN. DON’T TAKE ALL RELIGIOUS BELIEF AWAY AND NOT EVEN GIVE SOMETHING TO REPLACE IT. VERY BAD SOCIAL CONSCIOUSNESS RAISING TECHNIQUE.

      • Melon Says:

        lol…

        It is not Bro. Jeremiah’s right, responsibility nor perogative to ‘present what we should believe.’

        Do I understand us to be wanting to get plugged into the Matrix after just having left it?

        Our family keeps it simple as we are guided by the principles of Maat and the Nguzo Saba as to our behavior and interaction with our global Afrikan community.

        Gotta have holiday’s (that are non-european) thus we celebrate Jubilee day, Black marriage day, Malcolm X Day/AFrican Liberation Day, Juneteenth, Black August and Kwanzaa.

        But, hey, this may not be for you. My advice: look to your ancestral way that existed BEFORE the Maafa as your guide. WWTAD? (What would the Ancestors do?)


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